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Publish Not your original work? Add source A large part of excelling at work means knowing how to deal with your superiors and reminding them of your achievements. If you can successfully manage your managers, odds are that you'll live a more peaceful life at the office, on the sales floor, at the construction site, and elsewhere. However, some managers are bent on making your life miserable, they won't recognize your hard work, your dedication, your willingness to give them a second, third, even fourth chance to change their ways. And some people… they've lost the spark of goodwill that made them go the extra mile and be nice to everyone. That's exactly what Dr. Kate Lister, a lecturer in the School of Arts and Communication at Leeds Trinity University, spoke about in her viral thread on Twitter. Kate asked her followers how old they were when they realized that their plan of being nice, working really hard, and taking on more than their share of tasks wouldn't automatically be rewarded, was nonsense and wouldn't actually work out. Scroll down to have a read what people tweeted back to Kate, as well as for Bored Panda's interview with financial expert Sam Dogen, the founder of the Financial Samurai project, about how to deal with managers and how it's vital to let them know about your achievements on a periodic basis. Image credits: k8_lister This post may include affiliate links. #1 Majikal6661 Report Final score: 183points POST BigOrangeTractor BigOrangeTractor Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 11 months ago Dude just described my entire employed life. Self employed now and never going back. It's less secure but so much better in every other way. 51 51points reply View More Replies... View more comments #2 DissBugBear Report Final score: 166points POST Kona Pake Kona Pake Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago And take all the credit. 54 54points reply View more comments #3 regcrawford3 Report Final score: 150points POST Treessimontrees Treessimontrees Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Nobody on their death bed says "I wish I'd worked more" 76 76points reply View More Replies... View more comments Kate's thread was a massive success on Twitter. Her questions got a whopping 351.6k likes (that's over a third of a million!) and was retweeted over 54k times. People opened up the difficulties they faced at work and exactly when they realized that being a dedicated worker who goes out of their way to do more than everyone simply isn't enough. Not everyone is recognized for working hard. Though I personally still believe that discipline and working hard are the core reasons for success. Is that naive of me? Realistic? That's for you to decide, dear Pandas. Financial expert Sam, who runs the Financial Samurai blog, told Bored Panda more about what 'managing managers' actually means. In essence, it's about constant communication and reminding our superiors of what we're doing, what we've achieved, what our contribution to the company is. #4 emilyx1 Report Final score: 146points POST r0cketmom r0cketmom Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Agreed! 26 26points reply View More Replies... View more comments #5 Tonightat11DOOOOM Report Final score: 146points POST Oskar vanZandt Oskar vanZandt Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago I hear similar sentiments that my younger brothers' work mates have shared with him: they're afraid to take time off as it will damage their rep with the boss and affect the amount of over time they will be able to work to pay for the things in their life they can ill afford and have no time to enjoy. [They're in Canada. My brother's been with the company 20 years and now has the right to a month's annual leave...] 16 16points reply View More Replies... View more comments #6 MarkLister1969 Report Final score: 145points POST Mewton’s Third Paw Mewton’s Third Paw Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago This is the worst one to me for some reason. Your monthly pay shouldn’t be confused for a weekly pay. Half of these things wouldn’t be a problem if minimum wage was a normal, decent wage. Like at least $20. Imagine trying to live on less than that. There’s just no way. Not even if you’re single. 54 54points reply View More Replies... View more comments "Managing your manager entails keeping him or her abreast of what you are up to," Sam explained that we should do our best to keep our superiors in the loop about our work as much as we can, without going into too much unnecessary detail. "It means highlighting your key wins and reminding them at the end of the year about what you did in the first half of the year," the expert pointed out that we have to periodically remind our bosses of what we've achieved so far. It's something to keep in mind and you should probably take this into consideration, what with the end of the year approaching and all. #7 CeriTheCommish Report Final score: 135points POST mph seti mph seti Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Yup. It's not about hard work, or even being talented. It's about who you know and where you come from. 55 55points reply View More Replies... View more comments #8 ihartsnape Report Final score: 125points POST mulk mulk Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago What an awful teacher... 119 119points reply View More Replies... View more comments #9 dario006 Report Final score: 123points POST Ally R Ally R Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago This! The last corporate job I had, my manager said she thought I could do more and take on more responsibility but for no pay increase all because I was doing a good job. I was contracted to work part time hours but kept creeping closer and closer to full time hours which resulted in me being stressed and had a full blown panic attack. The head of our department was surprised when I handed in my notice. Never ever give up more of your time for no pay. 30 30points reply View more comments I was interested to get Sam's take on whether we should be worried about leaving a paper trail about what we've done and what we've spoken about with our colleagues, managers, and bosses. "It is very important to keep everything in writing. Over time, we tend to forget our interactions," Sam warned that we have to take the time to make copies of the most important interactions we've had at work. These can save our bacon if things go wrong. They can also remind our managers about any promises they made in the past. #10 CookeLouise Report Final score: 110points POST Evil Little Thing Evil Little Thing Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Sandberg made that s**t up. When people actually looked at the data, it turns out that while men are rewarded for asking for raises, women are more likely to be punished - forget being given the raise she asks for, she might get fired for asking! 87 87points reply View More Replies... View more comments #11 susiebeeb Report Final score: 105points POST Quaumsy Quaumsy Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 11 months ago That shows just how little managers care about their employees, they just care about lining their pockets, and exploiting their workers to do it. 31 31points reply View More Replies... View more comments #12 StrangePaegan Report Final score: 101points POST Bored Cats Bored Cats Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago This takes messed up to a new level 52 52points reply View more comments Financial expert Sam noted that we tend to misremember things, so we shouldn't rely just on our memories. Having documents, screenshots helps refresh your memory and get closer to the truth. "By keeping things in writing, we can better remember situations and better argue for ourselves when it comes to asking for a raise and a promotion," Sam said that when we have clear evidence of our work, our achievements, our input, it's then easier to angle for a raise. The expert added that he's got some great tips on how to deal with micromanagers which you can find on his blog, Financial Samurai, right here. #13 EmmaOblivious Report Final score: 93points POST Oskar vanZandt Oskar vanZandt Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago That stings! Something similar has happened to me a number of times... I have issues with unfairness. 28 28points reply View more comments #14 LapsedGrad Report Final score: 90points POST Marco Conti Marco Conti Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago My wife went through that a few times, especially for county and state jobs. Apparently they prefer to hire morons for those positions. 28 28points reply View More Replies... View more comments #15 CTgeekdad Report Final score: 87points POST ZAPanda ZAPanda Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Yep, this is supported by research. https://www.forbes.com/sites/victorlipman/2013/04/25/the-disturbing-link-between-psychopathy-and-leadership/ 23 23points reply View More Replies... View more comments Jeff Shannon, an executive coach, has a similar point of view that we need to get our superiors to notice our work. He told BBC Worklife that hard work is a good start early in your career, but it's not enough if you're aiming for the top or want to avoid stagnating in your career. #16 effjayem Report Final score: 85points POST mulk mulk Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago WTF? Shame on them 57 57points reply View more comments See Also on Bored Panda Woman Shows How "Harry Potter" Characters Were Supposed To Look According To Book Descriptions (35 Pics) 50 ‘Weird Facts’ About The World That Might Give You A Fresh Perspective #17 turnstonegenie Report Final score: 85points POST ZAPanda ZAPanda Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Name and shame please. Plagiarism in academia is unforgivable. We need to know who this person is so we never cite them. 86 86points reply View More Replies... View more comments #18 Heckitty Report Final score: 85points POST Hermione Hermione Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago And the men had permanent contracts? 18 18points reply View More Replies... View more comments "At a certain point, you look around and realize, wow, everyone works hard at this level. Expertise and hard work just become the expectation, and will not help you up the ladder," he told the BBC. In short, a certain amount of office politics is inevitable if you want to rise in the ranks, get a proper raise, and see your hard work pay off. #19 TheBookRest Report Final score: 82points POST Zozo? Zozo? Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago That’s so sad 16 16points reply View more comments #20 bengregg Report Final score: 80points POST Monday Monday Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago This one doesn't really fit....being nice and working hard has never been the formula we use for relationships. It sucks for poor Ben definitely, but it doesn't really belong on the list. 43 43points reply View More Replies... View more comments #21 thunderratz Report Final score: 80points POST Marco Conti Marco Conti Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Free work for a business about to go under? That's why they sent 18YO in suicide attacks to face the machine guns in WWI. Too young to know better. 22 22points reply View More Replies... View more comments That means getting noticed: advertising what you do and promoting yourself, so you don't fly under the radar when it's time for a promotion. Tell your manager that you want to keep them in the loop so it doesn't look like boasting. Or, as Carol Frohlinger, the president of Negotiating Women, Inc., told the BBC, "If you don't take care of your career, nobody else is going to do it." #22 w11f1ow3r Report Final score: 73points POST Monty Glue Monty Glue Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago My breaking point was when I was training 2 new hire and they disclosed to me they we both making more than my current rate. This was after 15 years on the job as top producer at the site and I was TRAING THEM. My work ethic took a steep drop after I acquired that information. 41 41points reply View more comments #23 GameDevMum Report Final score: 70points POST Grumble O'Pug Grumble O'Pug Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago This really is the hallmark of crappy corporate HR. 21 21points reply View more comments #24 dnharper Report Final score: 68points POST Mewton’s Third Paw Mewton’s Third Paw Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Exactly this! This is part of why I wasn’t really ever able to advance a career. I literally had to make my own businesses to solve this paradox. 20 20points reply View more comments #25 hbirddog Report Final score: 64points POST chuck.dont.surf chuck.dont.surf Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago (edited) Y'all are missing the point. This is nepotism. Not only did they place their friends in management positions, they poured salt in the wound by having a server (who could have done the job and probably deserved it) train them. 37 37points reply View More Replies... View more comments #26 beckypickle Report Final score: 61points POST Schern Hanley Schern Hanley Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago At 18,I was told I couldn’t work in a pet food store in the UK because I was going to get married and have children and that was not in their work ethic . I was too dumbstruck and naive to report them. 14 14points reply View more comments See Also on Bored Panda Overworked Employee Quits Because He Wasn't Getting A Fair Wage, Costs The Company $40 Million 40 Embarrassing Moments People Didn't Know Who They Were Talking To And Made A Fool Of Themselves #27 yallmfsneedjesus Report Final score: 58points POST Paul Davis Paul Davis Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago I was told I couldn't be given a good review because policy would have required them to give me a raise they hadn't budgeted for. 39 39points reply View More Replies... View more comments #28 ShCoBro Report Final score: 57points POST Scott Moore Scott Moore Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Samantha, you're a c**t. 16 16points reply View More Replies... View more comments #29 JohannesTEvans Report Final score: 53points POST Oskar vanZandt Oskar vanZandt Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago (edited) Interesting Twitter handle... There definitely is a gender bias in the working world: males and females ARE treated differently in every field/profession/occupation, whether private or public. The OP now has the perspective from both PsOV. 8 8points reply View More Replies... View more comments #30 GordonCE Report Final score: 48points POST Oskar vanZandt Oskar vanZandt Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Networking is the way to advancement today... in the old days it was schmoozing. If you aren't part of the "inner circle", you will not be rewarded. Many organisations, businesses and political entities are based on nepotism. 11 11points reply View more comments Note: this post originally had 48 images. 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Just found out I was passed over for the promotion I was working toward for 15+ years--volunteering for extra duties, learning things none of the other admin assistants wanted to do, etc. Director chose someone from outside the division to be the office manager, then told me I "might need to grow a thicker skin" when I told him how hurt and disappointed I was. After all my hard work, I'm in the same situation as the woman who's been sitting at her desk reading a book for 20 years. I have 10 more years until retirement, and from now on I will be loyal only to myself. 19 19points reply Craig Reynolds Craig Reynolds Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 10 months ago Whatever else you do, do NOT train that new office manager on ANYTHING. If they were hired over you, then they should automatically know everything they need to know. 2 2points reply Load More Replies... Kim Parker Kim Parker Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Go spend those ten more years somewhere else. Life is too short. You could have a fantastic ten years! 0 0points reply GreatFlyingSpatula GreatFlyingSpatula Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Last year, 26. My boss was made redundant after 25 years in the role, very much a 'married to her job' type. I stayed in touch and she's still pretty heartbroken, won't hear a bad word against the company though. Made me realise I don't want to spend my life working hard making money for other people only to be turfed our 2 years before I'm due to retire. Time is precious y'all. 13 13points reply Chich Chich Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Was in a planning position for 2yrs. Redid the way things were done and it was a definite improvement. Worked with other groups we interacted with to help get things done smoothly. Mgmt then decided I wasn't 'qualified' for the position and "Oh by the way, can you train your replacement?" 10 10points reply ZAPanda ZAPanda Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Add onto your CV that you do business process design. Do a course online. Find a management role. Send them photos of your new payslip. 6 6points reply Load More Replies... mph seti mph seti Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Training your own replacement is just the worst... 5 5points reply Craig Reynolds Craig Reynolds Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 10 months ago Who does that? I would absolutely NEVER train my replacement unless I was being granted a full-year severance package including fully paid health insurance. 0 0points reply Chucky Cheezburger Chucky Cheezburger Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Unless they are giving a nice severance, tell them you can train them under contract for 4 time what you are making. Otherwise, nope. 4 4points reply Question everything Question everything Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago My MIL has done the same when she was laid off. The company asked her to train pll (around 4 months worth after the lay off date) from other division so they could do her job and she said 'sure, for double my current pay' lol. They didn't want to pay her so they struggled for a while. If training is not in a job description don't do it or ask for a new contract for more pay. 3 3points reply Load More Comments POST Stephanie Cunningham Stephanie Cunningham Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago I'm going through this right now, at 51. Just found out I was passed over for the promotion I was working toward for 15+ years--volunteering for extra duties, learning things none of the other admin assistants wanted to do, etc. Director chose someone from outside the division to be the office manager, then told me I "might need to grow a thicker skin" when I told him how hurt and disappointed I was. After all my hard work, I'm in the same situation as the woman who's been sitting at her desk reading a book for 20 years. I have 10 more years until retirement, and from now on I will be loyal only to myself. 19 19points reply Craig Reynolds Craig Reynolds Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 10 months ago Whatever else you do, do NOT train that new office manager on ANYTHING. If they were hired over you, then they should automatically know everything they need to know. 2 2points reply Load More Replies... Kim Parker Kim Parker Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Go spend those ten more years somewhere else. Life is too short. You could have a fantastic ten years! 0 0points reply GreatFlyingSpatula GreatFlyingSpatula Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Last year, 26. My boss was made redundant after 25 years in the role, very much a 'married to her job' type. I stayed in touch and she's still pretty heartbroken, won't hear a bad word against the company though. Made me realise I don't want to spend my life working hard making money for other people only to be turfed our 2 years before I'm due to retire. Time is precious y'all. 13 13points reply Chich Chich Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Was in a planning position for 2yrs. Redid the way things were done and it was a definite improvement. Worked with other groups we interacted with to help get things done smoothly. Mgmt then decided I wasn't 'qualified' for the position and "Oh by the way, can you train your replacement?" 10 10points reply ZAPanda ZAPanda Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Add onto your CV that you do business process design. Do a course online. Find a management role. Send them photos of your new payslip. 6 6points reply Load More Replies... mph seti mph seti Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Training your own replacement is just the worst... 5 5points reply Craig Reynolds Craig Reynolds Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 10 months ago Who does that? I would absolutely NEVER train my replacement unless I was being granted a full-year severance package including fully paid health insurance. 0 0points reply Chucky Cheezburger Chucky Cheezburger Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Unless they are giving a nice severance, tell them you can train them under contract for 4 time what you are making. Otherwise, nope. 4 4points reply Question everything Question everything Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago My MIL has done the same when she was laid off. The company asked her to train pll (around 4 months worth after the lay off date) from other division so they could do her job and she said 'sure, for double my current pay' lol. They didn't want to pay her so they struggled for a while. If training is not in a job description don't do it or ask for a new contract for more pay. 3 3points reply Load More Comments Popular on Bored Panda I Used AI To See What These 23 Popular Cartoon Characters Would Look Like In Real Life 30 Y.O. Woman Takes DNA Test For Fun Only To Discover Her Long-Term Boyfriend Is Her Full Sibling "I Just Said Thank You And Left": Man’s Nice Gesture Is Praised After Pizza Hut Driver Got A $20 Tip On A $938 Order Woman Flabbergasted At Thrift Store's Prices, Calls Them Out By Sharing 14 Examples 50 Parents Having A Pretty Miserable Day Photoshop Troll Who Takes Photo Requests Too Literally Strikes Again, And The Result Is Hilarious (17 Pics) Popular on Bored Panda 30 Y.O. 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Publish Not your original work? Add source A large part of excelling at work means knowing how to deal with your superiors and reminding them of your achievements. If you can successfully manage your managers, odds are that you'll live a more peaceful life at the office, on the sales floor, at the construction site, and elsewhere. However, some managers are bent on making your life miserable, they won't recognize your hard work, your dedication, your willingness to give them a second, third, even fourth chance to change their ways. And some people… they've lost the spark of goodwill that made them go the extra mile and be nice to everyone. That's exactly what Dr. Kate Lister, a lecturer in the School of Arts and Communication at Leeds Trinity University, spoke about in her viral thread on Twitter. Kate asked her followers how old they were when they realized that their plan of being nice, working really hard, and taking on more than their share of tasks wouldn't automatically be rewarded, was nonsense and wouldn't actually work out. Scroll down to have a read what people tweeted back to Kate, as well as for Bored Panda's interview with financial expert Sam Dogen, the founder of the Financial Samurai project, about how to deal with managers and how it's vital to let them know about your achievements on a periodic basis. Image credits: k8_lister This post may include affiliate links. #1 Majikal6661 Report Final score: 183points POST BigOrangeTractor BigOrangeTractor Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 11 months ago Dude just described my entire employed life. Self employed now and never going back. It's less secure but so much better in every other way. 51 51points reply View More Replies... View more comments #2 DissBugBear Report Final score: 166points POST Kona Pake Kona Pake Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago And take all the credit. 54 54points reply View more comments #3 regcrawford3 Report Final score: 150points POST Treessimontrees Treessimontrees Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Nobody on their death bed says "I wish I'd worked more" 76 76points reply View More Replies... View more comments Kate's thread was a massive success on Twitter. Her questions got a whopping 351.6k likes (that's over a third of a million!) and was retweeted over 54k times. People opened up the difficulties they faced at work and exactly when they realized that being a dedicated worker who goes out of their way to do more than everyone simply isn't enough. Not everyone is recognized for working hard. Though I personally still believe that discipline and working hard are the core reasons for success. Is that naive of me? Realistic? That's for you to decide, dear Pandas. Financial expert Sam, who runs the Financial Samurai blog, told Bored Panda more about what 'managing managers' actually means. In essence, it's about constant communication and reminding our superiors of what we're doing, what we've achieved, what our contribution to the company is. #4 emilyx1 Report Final score: 146points POST r0cketmom r0cketmom Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Agreed! 26 26points reply View More Replies... View more comments #5 Tonightat11DOOOOM Report Final score: 146points POST Oskar vanZandt Oskar vanZandt Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago I hear similar sentiments that my younger brothers' work mates have shared with him: they're afraid to take time off as it will damage their rep with the boss and affect the amount of over time they will be able to work to pay for the things in their life they can ill afford and have no time to enjoy. [They're in Canada. My brother's been with the company 20 years and now has the right to a month's annual leave...] 16 16points reply View More Replies... View more comments #6 MarkLister1969 Report Final score: 145points POST Mewton’s Third Paw Mewton’s Third Paw Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago This is the worst one to me for some reason. Your monthly pay shouldn’t be confused for a weekly pay. Half of these things wouldn’t be a problem if minimum wage was a normal, decent wage. Like at least $20. Imagine trying to live on less than that. There’s just no way. Not even if you’re single. 54 54points reply View More Replies... View more comments "Managing your manager entails keeping him or her abreast of what you are up to," Sam explained that we should do our best to keep our superiors in the loop about our work as much as we can, without going into too much unnecessary detail. "It means highlighting your key wins and reminding them at the end of the year about what you did in the first half of the year," the expert pointed out that we have to periodically remind our bosses of what we've achieved so far. It's something to keep in mind and you should probably take this into consideration, what with the end of the year approaching and all. #7 CeriTheCommish Report Final score: 135points POST mph seti mph seti Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Yup. It's not about hard work, or even being talented. It's about who you know and where you come from. 55 55points reply View More Replies... View more comments #8 ihartsnape Report Final score: 125points POST mulk mulk Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago What an awful teacher... 119 119points reply View More Replies... View more comments #9 dario006 Report Final score: 123points POST Ally R Ally R Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago This! The last corporate job I had, my manager said she thought I could do more and take on more responsibility but for no pay increase all because I was doing a good job. I was contracted to work part time hours but kept creeping closer and closer to full time hours which resulted in me being stressed and had a full blown panic attack. The head of our department was surprised when I handed in my notice. Never ever give up more of your time for no pay. 30 30points reply View more comments I was interested to get Sam's take on whether we should be worried about leaving a paper trail about what we've done and what we've spoken about with our colleagues, managers, and bosses. "It is very important to keep everything in writing. Over time, we tend to forget our interactions," Sam warned that we have to take the time to make copies of the most important interactions we've had at work. These can save our bacon if things go wrong. They can also remind our managers about any promises they made in the past. #10 CookeLouise Report Final score: 110points POST Evil Little Thing Evil Little Thing Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Sandberg made that s**t up. When people actually looked at the data, it turns out that while men are rewarded for asking for raises, women are more likely to be punished - forget being given the raise she asks for, she might get fired for asking! 87 87points reply View More Replies... View more comments #11 susiebeeb Report Final score: 105points POST Quaumsy Quaumsy Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 11 months ago That shows just how little managers care about their employees, they just care about lining their pockets, and exploiting their workers to do it. 31 31points reply View More Replies... View more comments #12 StrangePaegan Report Final score: 101points POST Bored Cats Bored Cats Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago This takes messed up to a new level 52 52points reply View more comments Financial expert Sam noted that we tend to misremember things, so we shouldn't rely just on our memories. Having documents, screenshots helps refresh your memory and get closer to the truth. "By keeping things in writing, we can better remember situations and better argue for ourselves when it comes to asking for a raise and a promotion," Sam said that when we have clear evidence of our work, our achievements, our input, it's then easier to angle for a raise. The expert added that he's got some great tips on how to deal with micromanagers which you can find on his blog, Financial Samurai, right here. #13 EmmaOblivious Report Final score: 93points POST Oskar vanZandt Oskar vanZandt Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago That stings! Something similar has happened to me a number of times... I have issues with unfairness. 28 28points reply View more comments #14 LapsedGrad Report Final score: 90points POST Marco Conti Marco Conti Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago My wife went through that a few times, especially for county and state jobs. Apparently they prefer to hire morons for those positions. 28 28points reply View More Replies... View more comments #15 CTgeekdad Report Final score: 87points POST ZAPanda ZAPanda Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Yep, this is supported by research. https://www.forbes.com/sites/victorlipman/2013/04/25/the-disturbing-link-between-psychopathy-and-leadership/ 23 23points reply View More Replies... View more comments Jeff Shannon, an executive coach, has a similar point of view that we need to get our superiors to notice our work. He told BBC Worklife that hard work is a good start early in your career, but it's not enough if you're aiming for the top or want to avoid stagnating in your career. #16 effjayem Report Final score: 85points POST mulk mulk Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago WTF? Shame on them 57 57points reply View more comments See Also on Bored Panda Woman Shows How "Harry Potter" Characters Were Supposed To Look According To Book Descriptions (35 Pics) 50 ‘Weird Facts’ About The World That Might Give You A Fresh Perspective #17 turnstonegenie Report Final score: 85points POST ZAPanda ZAPanda Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Name and shame please. Plagiarism in academia is unforgivable. We need to know who this person is so we never cite them. 86 86points reply View More Replies... View more comments #18 Heckitty Report Final score: 85points POST Hermione Hermione Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago And the men had permanent contracts? 18 18points reply View More Replies... View more comments "At a certain point, you look around and realize, wow, everyone works hard at this level. Expertise and hard work just become the expectation, and will not help you up the ladder," he told the BBC. In short, a certain amount of office politics is inevitable if you want to rise in the ranks, get a proper raise, and see your hard work pay off. #19 TheBookRest Report Final score: 82points POST Zozo? Zozo? Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago That’s so sad 16 16points reply View more comments #20 bengregg Report Final score: 80points POST Monday Monday Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago This one doesn't really fit....being nice and working hard has never been the formula we use for relationships. It sucks for poor Ben definitely, but it doesn't really belong on the list. 43 43points reply View More Replies... View more comments #21 thunderratz Report Final score: 80points POST Marco Conti Marco Conti Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Free work for a business about to go under? That's why they sent 18YO in suicide attacks to face the machine guns in WWI. Too young to know better. 22 22points reply View More Replies... View more comments That means getting noticed: advertising what you do and promoting yourself, so you don't fly under the radar when it's time for a promotion. Tell your manager that you want to keep them in the loop so it doesn't look like boasting. Or, as Carol Frohlinger, the president of Negotiating Women, Inc., told the BBC, "If you don't take care of your career, nobody else is going to do it." #22 w11f1ow3r Report Final score: 73points POST Monty Glue Monty Glue Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago My breaking point was when I was training 2 new hire and they disclosed to me they we both making more than my current rate. This was after 15 years on the job as top producer at the site and I was TRAING THEM. My work ethic took a steep drop after I acquired that information. 41 41points reply View more comments #23 GameDevMum Report Final score: 70points POST Grumble O'Pug Grumble O'Pug Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago This really is the hallmark of crappy corporate HR. 21 21points reply View more comments #24 dnharper Report Final score: 68points POST Mewton’s Third Paw Mewton’s Third Paw Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Exactly this! This is part of why I wasn’t really ever able to advance a career. I literally had to make my own businesses to solve this paradox. 20 20points reply View more comments #25 hbirddog Report Final score: 64points POST chuck.dont.surf chuck.dont.surf Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago (edited) Y'all are missing the point. This is nepotism. Not only did they place their friends in management positions, they poured salt in the wound by having a server (who could have done the job and probably deserved it) train them. 37 37points reply View More Replies... View more comments #26 beckypickle Report Final score: 61points POST Schern Hanley Schern Hanley Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago At 18,I was told I couldn’t work in a pet food store in the UK because I was going to get married and have children and that was not in their work ethic . I was too dumbstruck and naive to report them. 14 14points reply View more comments See Also on Bored Panda Overworked Employee Quits Because He Wasn't Getting A Fair Wage, Costs The Company $40 Million 40 Embarrassing Moments People Didn't Know Who They Were Talking To And Made A Fool Of Themselves #27 yallmfsneedjesus Report Final score: 58points POST Paul Davis Paul Davis Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago I was told I couldn't be given a good review because policy would have required them to give me a raise they hadn't budgeted for. 39 39points reply View More Replies... View more comments #28 ShCoBro Report Final score: 57points POST Scott Moore Scott Moore Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Samantha, you're a c**t. 16 16points reply View More Replies... View more comments #29 JohannesTEvans Report Final score: 53points POST Oskar vanZandt Oskar vanZandt Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago (edited) Interesting Twitter handle... There definitely is a gender bias in the working world: males and females ARE treated differently in every field/profession/occupation, whether private or public. The OP now has the perspective from both PsOV. 8 8points reply View More Replies... View more comments #30 GordonCE Report Final score: 48points POST Oskar vanZandt Oskar vanZandt Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Networking is the way to advancement today... in the old days it was schmoozing. If you aren't part of the "inner circle", you will not be rewarded. Many organisations, businesses and political entities are based on nepotism. 11 11points reply View more comments Note: this post originally had 48 images. 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Title Update Jonas Grinevičius Follow Unfollow Jonas Grinevičius Writer, BoredPanda staff Jonas is a Bored Panda writer who previously worked as a world news journalist elsewhere. After getting his bachelor's degree in Politics and International Relations at the University of Manchester, he returned home and graduated from Vilnius University with a master's degree in Comparative Politics. Jonas enjoys writing articles ranging from serious topics like politics and social issues to more lighthearted things like art, pop culture, and nature. In his spare time, Jonas writes books and short stories and likes to draw lighthearted illustrations. A huge fan of literature, films, philosophy, and tabletop games, he also has a special place in his heart for anything related to fantasy or science fiction. Read more » Austėja Akavickaitė Follow Unfollow Austėja Akavickaitė Author, BoredPanda staff Austėja is a Photo Editor at Bored Panda with a BA in Photography. 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Just found out I was passed over for the promotion I was working toward for 15+ years--volunteering for extra duties, learning things none of the other admin assistants wanted to do, etc. Director chose someone from outside the division to be the office manager, then told me I "might need to grow a thicker skin" when I told him how hurt and disappointed I was. After all my hard work, I'm in the same situation as the woman who's been sitting at her desk reading a book for 20 years. I have 10 more years until retirement, and from now on I will be loyal only to myself. 19 19points reply Craig Reynolds Craig Reynolds Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 10 months ago Whatever else you do, do NOT train that new office manager on ANYTHING. If they were hired over you, then they should automatically know everything they need to know. 2 2points reply Load More Replies... Kim Parker Kim Parker Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Go spend those ten more years somewhere else. Life is too short. You could have a fantastic ten years! 0 0points reply GreatFlyingSpatula GreatFlyingSpatula Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Last year, 26. My boss was made redundant after 25 years in the role, very much a 'married to her job' type. I stayed in touch and she's still pretty heartbroken, won't hear a bad word against the company though. Made me realise I don't want to spend my life working hard making money for other people only to be turfed our 2 years before I'm due to retire. Time is precious y'all. 13 13points reply Chich Chich Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Was in a planning position for 2yrs. Redid the way things were done and it was a definite improvement. Worked with other groups we interacted with to help get things done smoothly. Mgmt then decided I wasn't 'qualified' for the position and "Oh by the way, can you train your replacement?" 10 10points reply ZAPanda ZAPanda Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Add onto your CV that you do business process design. Do a course online. Find a management role. Send them photos of your new payslip. 6 6points reply Load More Replies... mph seti mph seti Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Training your own replacement is just the worst... 5 5points reply Craig Reynolds Craig Reynolds Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 10 months ago Who does that? I would absolutely NEVER train my replacement unless I was being granted a full-year severance package including fully paid health insurance. 0 0points reply Chucky Cheezburger Chucky Cheezburger Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Unless they are giving a nice severance, tell them you can train them under contract for 4 time what you are making. Otherwise, nope. 4 4points reply Question everything Question everything Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago My MIL has done the same when she was laid off. The company asked her to train pll (around 4 months worth after the lay off date) from other division so they could do her job and she said 'sure, for double my current pay' lol. They didn't want to pay her so they struggled for a while. If training is not in a job description don't do it or ask for a new contract for more pay. 3 3points reply Load More Comments POST Stephanie Cunningham Stephanie Cunningham Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago I'm going through this right now, at 51. Just found out I was passed over for the promotion I was working toward for 15+ years--volunteering for extra duties, learning things none of the other admin assistants wanted to do, etc. Director chose someone from outside the division to be the office manager, then told me I "might need to grow a thicker skin" when I told him how hurt and disappointed I was. After all my hard work, I'm in the same situation as the woman who's been sitting at her desk reading a book for 20 years. I have 10 more years until retirement, and from now on I will be loyal only to myself. 19 19points reply Craig Reynolds Craig Reynolds Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 10 months ago Whatever else you do, do NOT train that new office manager on ANYTHING. If they were hired over you, then they should automatically know everything they need to know. 2 2points reply Load More Replies... Kim Parker Kim Parker Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Go spend those ten more years somewhere else. Life is too short. You could have a fantastic ten years! 0 0points reply GreatFlyingSpatula GreatFlyingSpatula Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Last year, 26. My boss was made redundant after 25 years in the role, very much a 'married to her job' type. I stayed in touch and she's still pretty heartbroken, won't hear a bad word against the company though. Made me realise I don't want to spend my life working hard making money for other people only to be turfed our 2 years before I'm due to retire. Time is precious y'all. 13 13points reply Chich Chich Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Was in a planning position for 2yrs. Redid the way things were done and it was a definite improvement. Worked with other groups we interacted with to help get things done smoothly. Mgmt then decided I wasn't 'qualified' for the position and "Oh by the way, can you train your replacement?" 10 10points reply ZAPanda ZAPanda Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Add onto your CV that you do business process design. Do a course online. Find a management role. Send them photos of your new payslip. 6 6points reply Load More Replies... mph seti mph seti Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Training your own replacement is just the worst... 5 5points reply Craig Reynolds Craig Reynolds Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 10 months ago Who does that? I would absolutely NEVER train my replacement unless I was being granted a full-year severance package including fully paid health insurance. 0 0points reply Chucky Cheezburger Chucky Cheezburger Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Unless they are giving a nice severance, tell them you can train them under contract for 4 time what you are making. Otherwise, nope. 4 4points reply Question everything Question everything Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago My MIL has done the same when she was laid off. The company asked her to train pll (around 4 months worth after the lay off date) from other division so they could do her job and she said 'sure, for double my current pay' lol. They didn't want to pay her so they struggled for a while. If training is not in a job description don't do it or ask for a new contract for more pay. 3 3points reply Load More Comments Popular on Bored Panda I Used AI To See What These 23 Popular Cartoon Characters Would Look Like In Real Life 30 Y.O. Woman Takes DNA Test For Fun Only To Discover Her Long-Term Boyfriend Is Her Full Sibling "I Just Said Thank You And Left": Man’s Nice Gesture Is Praised After Pizza Hut Driver Got A $20 Tip On A $938 Order Woman Flabbergasted At Thrift Store's Prices, Calls Them Out By Sharing 14 Examples 50 Parents Having A Pretty Miserable Day Photoshop Troll Who Takes Photo Requests Too Literally Strikes Again, And The Result Is Hilarious (17 Pics) Popular on Bored Panda 30 Y.O. 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